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  IS THERE PROOF THE GOVERNING BODY PREACH DOOR TO DOOR? Real Proof Please!

  by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

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  i heard very few if any, of the new members on the governing body actually go out in field service more than three hours a month.

  is there a reason why the governing body would excuse themselves from the master's commandments?

  jesus christ never said "spending time writing rules and regulations" was part of matthew 28. .

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  Aussie Oz

  actually, taking another look at Herd's bag it does look photoshopped in too...I had a bag very similar to that and it was much bigger. It looks about the size of a ladies handbag in that pic...

  Oz
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  Flood Story in every Culture?

  by enigma1863 in

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  ok im looking for a specific religion and culture that has no flood story.

  someone claimed that every religion/culture has a flood story.

  i disagree but i want to have a reference..

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  Aussie Oz

  funny enough...or NOT funny, was that when I was 'in' i never questioned or investigated any of the WTs list of cultures with a flood legend.

  That there was a list was good enough for me... and I suspect for most of us before we woke up.

  Oz

  edit: anyway, as you are looking for a culture that has NO flood story, the above lists might help you cross them off ...
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  Flood Story in every Culture?

  by enigma1863 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok im looking for a specific religion and culture that has no flood story.

  someone claimed that every religion/culture has a flood story.

  i disagree but i want to have a reference..

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  Aussie Oz

  From the insight book, another big list of cultures claimed to have flood stories that CAME FROM the 'real one' of Noah

  Chart

  onpage 328] (For fully formatted text, see publication)

  Flood Legends

  Samples from six continents and the islands of the sea; hundreds of such legends are known

  Australia- Kurnai

  Destruction by Water / Humans Spared / Animals Spared/ Preserved in a Vessel

  Babylon-Berossus’ account

  Destruction by Water / Warning Given / Humans Spared / Animals Spared/ Preserved in a Vessel

  Babylon -Gilgamesh epic

  Destruction by Water / Divine Cause / Warning Given / Humans Spared / Animals Spared /Preserved in a Vessel

  Bolivia- Chiriguano

  Destruction by Water / Divine Cause / Warning Given / Humans Spared / Preserved in a Vessel

  Borneo-Sea Dayak

  Destruction by Water / Humans Spared / Animals Spared / Preserved in a Vessel

  Burma- Singpho

  Destruction by Water / Humans Spared / Animals Spared / Preserved in a Vessel

  Canada- Cree

  Destruction by Water / Divine Cause / Humans Spared / Animals Spared / Preserved in a Vessel

  Canada - Montagnais

  Destruction by Water / Divine Cause / Warning Given / Humans Spared / Animals Spared / Preserved in a Vessel

  China- Lolo

  Destruction by Water / Divine Cause / Humans Spared / Animals Spared / Preserved in a Vessel

  Cuba-original natives

  Destruction by Water / Warning Given / Humans Spared / Animals Spared / Preserved in a Vessel

  East Africa- Masai

  Destruction by Water / Divine Cause / Warning Given / Humans Spared / Animals Spared / Preserved in a Vessel

  Egypt -Book of the Dead

  Destruction by Water / Divine Cause / Warning Given / Humans Spared / Preserved in a Vessel

  Fiji -Walavu-levu tradition

  Destruction by Water / Divine Cause / Humans Spared / Preserved in a Vessel

  French Polynesia- Raïatéa

  Destruction by Water / Divine Cause / Warning Given / Humans Spared / Animals Spared

  Greece -Lucian’s account

  Destruction by Water / Humans Spared / Animals Spared / Preserved in a Vessel

  Guyana - Macushi

  Destruction by Water / Divine Cause / Humans Spared / Animals Spared / Preserved in a Vessel

  Iceland - Eddas

  Destruction by Water / Divine Cause / Humans Spared / Preserved in a Vessel

  India -Andaman Islands

  Destruction by Water / Divine Cause / Humans Spared / Preserved in a Vessel

  India - Bhil

  Destruction by Water Warning Given Humans Spared Animals Spared Preserved in a Vessel

  India - Kamar

  Destruction by Water Divine Cause Warning Given Humans Spared Preserved in a Vessel

  Iran - Zend-Avest

  Destruction by Water Warning Given Humans Spared Animals Spared

  Italy - Ovid’s poetry

  Destruction by Water Divine Cause Humans Spared Preserved in a Vessel

  Malay Peninsula- Jakun

  Destruction by Water Divine Cause Humans Spared Preserved in a Vessel

  Mexico -Codex Chimalpopoca

  Destruction by Water Warning Given Humans Spared Preserved in a Vessel

  Mexico- Huichol

  Destruction by Water Warning Given Humans Spared Animals Spared Preserved in a Vessel

  New Zealand- Maori

  Destruction by Water Divine Cause Humans Spared Preserved in a Vessel

  Peru -Indianof Huarochirí

  Destruction by Water Warning Given Humans Spared Animals Spared

  Russia- Vogul

  Destruction by Water Warning Given Humans Spared Preserved in a Vessel

  U.S.A. (Alaska)- Kolusches

  Destruction by Water Warning Given Humans Spared Animals Spared Preserved in a Vessel

  U.S.A. (Alaska)- Tlingit

  Destruction by Water Divine Cause Humans Spared Animals Spared Preserved in a Vessel

  U.S.A. (Arizona)- Papago

  Destruction by Water Warning Given Humans Spared Animals Spared Preserved in a Vessel

  U.S.A. (Hawaii)- legend of Nu-u

  Destruction by Water Divine Cause Humans Spared Animals Spared Preserved in a Vessel

  Vanuatu- Melanesians

  Destruction by Water Humans Spared Animals Spared Preserved in a Vessel

  Vietnam- Bahnar

  Destruction by Water Humans Spared Animals Spared Preserved in a Vessel

  Wales -Dwyfan/Dwyfach legend

  Destruction by Water Humans Spared Animals Spared Preserved in a Vessel

  [Artwork—Chinese characters]

  VESSEL + EIGHT+ MOUTH (or Persons) .................... SHIP
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  Flood Story in every Culture?

  by enigma1863 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok im looking for a specific religion and culture that has no flood story.

  someone claimed that every religion/culture has a flood story.

  i disagree but i want to have a reference..

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  Aussie Oz

  please excuse the crappy formatting from the WT CD.

  This is from the 'Gods word' book 1989 that claims a list of cultures that have flood stories.

  Mankind Did Not Forget

  37 Geology professor John McCampbell once wrote: “The essential differences between Biblical catastrophism [the Flood] and evolutionary uniformitarianism are not over the factual data of geology but over the interpretations of those data. The interpretation preferred will depend largely upon the background and presuppositions of the individual student.”

  38 That the Flood did happen is seen in the fact that mankind never forgot it. All around the world, in locations as far apart as Alaska and the South Sea Islands, there are ancient stories about it. Native, pre-Columbian civilizations of America, as well as Aborigines of Australia, all have stories about the Flood. While some of the accounts differ in detail, the basic fact that the earth was flooded and only a few humans were saved in a man-made vessel comes through in nearly all versions. The only explanation for such a widespread acceptance is that the Flood was a historical event.
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  IS THERE PROOF THE GOVERNING BODY PREACH DOOR TO DOOR? Real Proof Please!

  by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i heard very few if any, of the new members on the governing body actually go out in field service more than three hours a month.

  is there a reason why the governing body would excuse themselves from the master's commandments?

  jesus christ never said "spending time writing rules and regulations" was part of matthew 28. .

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  Aussie Oz

  another good thread on this from a year ago...

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/217646/1/Do-the-Governing-Body-members-ever-go-Door-to-Door
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  The Pope has resigned,

  by Prefect in

  1. watchtower
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  just announced on sky news the pope has resigned..

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  Aussie Oz

  this is funny...me likes.

  I thought they went out in a box, either dead from old age or poison.

  but it seems the dude is just too darn tired and pooped out to even pray. I mean, what the hell does he have to actually DO?

  OZ
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  Flood Story in every Culture?

  by enigma1863 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok im looking for a specific religion and culture that has no flood story.

  someone claimed that every religion/culture has a flood story.

  i disagree but i want to have a reference..

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  Aussie Oz

  didnt one of the WT books give a list?

  personally i wouldn't trust the book any further than i could throw it, but it might be a good research tool to see if (a) those alledged cultures really to have the fable, or (B) that the WT twisted research to make it look like they do...

  Oz
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  Questions by JWs in 1976

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
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  in 1976, my friend bruce price was in contact with jehovahs witnesses who had become disillusioned through the debacle with 1975. bruce was the leading voice among the sda ministry in working for jws.

  at the time, i was a member of the sda church.

  although i left them about 25 years ago, to this day bruce and i enjoy a strong and genuinely warm friendship.. so, in 1976 bruce invited me to a meeting with one of the jws who was leading the disquiet in his congregation in dandenong (victoria, australia).

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  Aussie Oz

  PLEASE!

  somehow!

  Curiosity is raised and we needs a feedin'

  Oz
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  Okay kids!!I need prayers, karma, or good thoughts

  by mouthy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went to shut my door ( it has ice in the ledge) i shoved it with my side ugh!!!.

  if i laugh or cough i near die with pain.i went to the hospital for xrays.

  it is a torn muscle.

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  Aussie Oz

  Oh granny!

  Karma will look after you...you log in here, tell us your pain and here we all are! I for one would transmogrify your torn muscle to me if i could.

  Alas, my daughter is yet to get a diploma in Physics and invent the needed technology...sigh

  take care grace

  OZ
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  Over 4 months, still no response to this letter to the elders!

  by Greybeard in

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  2. friends

  hi everyone, its been over 4 months and i have not heard a response from the elders.

  i called one of them a few weeks back.

  he said they sent it to bethel and haven't heard back yet.

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  Aussie Oz

  Hi Greybeard

  thats one hell of a letter and a pity the parties that need to read it probably wont.

  It may be a hard thing to swallow, but your soulmate was not your soulmate. It was a relationship based on a lie of togetherness so long as you never deviated from the fairytale. To even question the tiny details of the story is to betray the soulmate-ness.

  A true soulmate does not care if you believe different theories, facts, fairytales or stories to get through life.

  If you come to terms with that, it WILL make healing so much easier, i can assure you.

  My first wife, even though she came to despise me, still wanted another try after our divorce. BUT the condition was that I had to re-adopt the old beliefs and practices. She could only love me if i repaired the rip in the fairytale.

  Oz